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Nick wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:41 am Its always going to be a problem that if you collect tax on something you are trying to phase out it will leave a hole (see cigarettes, though in that case it was suggested that the NHS saving would compensate). There will hopefully be a reduction in pollution bases hospital visits to compensate a bit.
most people who stop smoking put on weight, which turns out to be another nhs burden
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Yep, I saw that earlier today, lots of clever stuff.
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Surprising they are putting so much money and time into new research on ICE. Life in the old dog yet!
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Maybe something to do with e-Fuels. Personally I don’t think I’ll be around by the time eFuels hit the forecourt!

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/ ... -efuel-ev/
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Neal wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:47 pm Maybe something to do with e-Fuels. Personally I don’t think I’ll be around by the time eFuels hit the forecourt!

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/ ... -efuel-ev/
I guess you could argue it already has with E10.
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I read an interesting article about railway freight locos trialling with pure renewable Hydro-treated Vegetable Oil (HVO).

https://www.railfreight.com/railfreight ... 6-to-work/

The loco on trial has a GM Electro motive division two stroke diesel engine, but I understand the fuel is compatible with diesel engines in general.

Will we see this fuel commercially available for road vehicles ?
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Older diesels would burn vegetable oil quite happily. The common rail engines won’t though.
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I think we all understand that "zero emissions" as applied to electric cars does depend on how the electricity is generated in the first place.

Which makes the claims made by Porsche on synthetic fuel rather interesting.

Porsche claims a car running on eFuel will have the same CO2 footprint as an EV.

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/203323/sy ... newsletter
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I watched a "Harrys garage" YouTube video about the Jaguar iPace, and, nice car as it may be, the realities of of actual mileage available, and charging EVs (except Tesla) whilst out and about are rudely exposed.

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Interesting idea here that I hadn’t come across before:

https://scitechdaily.com/big-breakthrou ... -versions/
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Neal wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:08 am Well....not a good advert...

https://wtf1.com/post/almost-all-the-fo ... -the-race/
If this comment is accurate then it puts a different slant on the headline.

"Kinda dumb of you not to research further while you're pushing out a 1000-whatever words article. They didn't run out of battery... far from it. The rules dictate that for every lap of safety car the amount of usable energy is reduced, if at the beginning of the race they were allowed to use all 54 kwh, by the end of it they were only allowed to use 34~ causing this debacle. This is entirely the FiAs fault not adjusting the rules to the track and miscalculating. The drivers had around 40% battery left. I gotta say this article came off as another F1 fanboy vroom vroom whiney rant disguised as "joking" about Formula E."



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Ive watched a couple of formula e races and they were pretty good to watch, if abit wierd without the engine sounds.
It was like watching f3 or f2 races in terms of the speed, they werent hitting 200 odd mph on straights
Id like to see the cars at spa or imola, old school tracks, im not sure if they race there, but fe still seems to be something of a sideshow compared to f1 at the moment.
Hopefully that will change now the series is more established
Fia cock up isnt that much of a surprise
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