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#1 For opera fans

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I've never really 'done' Opera. Not understanding what the big lady or fella are singing half the time put me off in the past but maybe I should give listening to it properly a try.

Where's a good beginners place to start?
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Puccini's Turandot. The music is great and one of the last songs was press ganged into some stupid motor racing event. None shall sleep ( when these bloody cars howl and scream round a track) what's the point of that eh!
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andrew Ivimey wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:33 pm Puccini's Turandot. The music is great and one of the last songs was press ganged into some stupid motor racing event. None shall sleep ( when these bloody cars howl and scream round a track) what's the point of that eh!
I love the music in Turandot, but you have an heroine who is a bloodthirsty murderess who executes suitors, and a hero who ignores a slave girls who kills herself rather than reveal his name. Both the prince (tenor) and Turandot (soprano) are invariably played by extras from Supersize Me and can be far from empathetic.

Still love this opera though :)
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Opera is what it is. How's that for another useless Tautology.

We are where we are

It is what it is

Bloody annoying. On the hole I dont like opera (marbling Sopranos and wooden acting, pointless stories .....

But the music,WOW
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andrew Ivimey wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:13 am
Bloody annoying. On the hole I dont like opera (marbling Sopranos and wooden acting, pointless stories .....

But the music,WOW
Me too, and the same for music related to religion.
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pre65 wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:41 am Me too, and the same for music related to religion.
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andrew Ivimey wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:13 am...On the hole I dont like opera ...
You should come downstairs and listen to it properly in the living room !
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Oops that's a typo if ever.... 'old on..... I'm blaming the auto speel cheque.

Now I do love Maria Callas' voice for example but not only do I find opera incomprehensible because I can't hear what anyone is singing about I also find the stories a bit daft. I don't get the political or social critics and allusions that could have been dead witty to the composer's contemporaries but.... the music can be transcendentally wonderful. The Ring is astonishing, the story us just stupid ( imho) . The Bartered Bride is lovely, kinda weird but I still dont/ cant understand the words.
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andrew Ivimey wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:09 pm Oops that's a typo if ever.... 'old on..... I'm blaming the auto speel cheque.

Now I do love Maria Callas' voice for example but not only do I find opera incomprehensible because I can't hear what anyone is singing about I also find the stories a bit daft. I don't get the political or social critics and allusions that could have been dead witty to the composer's contemporaries but.... the music can be transcendentally wonderful. The Ring is astonishing, the story us just stupid ( imho) . The Bartered Bride is lovely, kinda weird but I still dont/ cant understand the words.
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IslandPink wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:33 pm
andrew Ivimey wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:13 am...On the hole I dont like opera ...
You should come downstairs and listen to it properly in the living room !
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Really Simon, really?
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Lost your sense of humour Andrew? (It's Marks saying...)
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Eeeeh, these bloody opera-lovers.
Ps. Nick said he quite enjoyed some opera when played via the Living Voice Vox Olympians .
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