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Just revisiting some Carla Bley and Steve Swallow CD's for a fellow forum member here and I thought I'd have a look around youtube for some fun.
Found this. Fun and a nice solo.
Now then, that revisiting these 2 takes me back to summat Nick said about Zappa, in that no matter what Zappa does, he always sounds like Zappa. Same here with Steve swallow, I've never heard another bassist that sounds like Mr Swallow. A very unique and melodic soloist on the bass.
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Found this. Fun and a nice solo.
Now then, that revisiting these 2 takes me back to summat Nick said about Zappa, in that no matter what Zappa does, he always sounds like Zappa. Same here with Steve swallow, I've never heard another bassist that sounds like Mr Swallow. A very unique and melodic soloist on the bass.
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Yes! he is See how he plays bass with a pick, very very close to the end of the neck to get a very warm rounded tone. he uses basses with piezo pick ups in to get the wood tone into his sound. He used to play Acoustic Bass but switched to lekky bass in the early 70's but wanted to keep part of that deep wood sound. Almost a polar opposite of Jaco P's sound.pre65 wrote:Very unique ?
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You can't be very unique, quite unique,almost unique,fairly unique or any other sort of unique.Dave the bass wrote:Yes! he ispre65 wrote:Very unique ?
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#156
Yes, but two things can be different, yet similar, or two things can be different and not at all similar. All four things can each be unique, but two of the things are less unique.
But if you think about it, the simple definition of unique is meaningless, if you look close enough, you will find everything is different from everything else, so in that way everything is unique.
Its all about tolerance I guess.
But if you think about it, the simple definition of unique is meaningless, if you look close enough, you will find everything is different from everything else, so in that way everything is unique.
Its all about tolerance I guess.
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No.Nick wrote: but two of the things are less unique.
You may be glad to know that I'm unique, but then so is everyone else.
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I understand what you are trying to convey.Nick wrote:or to put it another way, find me two things that are not each unique.
If there was a hopper full of 1 million seemingly identical ball bearings then convention would be that although each one may be, in some infinitesimal way, different to each and every other one, it would not be unique.
Or would it ?
And if it were, it would be unique and not nearly unique.
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Ah, but now you are appealing to convention, before you were suggesting that unique was a absolute.If there was a hopper full of 1 million seemingly identical ball bearings then convention would be that although each one may be, in some infinitesimal way, different to each and every other one, it would not be unique.
And now back to the absolute again.And if it were, it would be unique and not nearly unique.
You can't have it both ways. Either uniqueness is a binary property (two things are either unique or they are identical), or its a spectrum, more or less unique. if you want it to be either yes or no, then given that no two things are exactly identical, then everything is unique. So as everything is unique, uniqueness is a property that everything has in equal amount and so entirely meaningless.
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Unique: Adjective: Being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else:
So either it is or it isn't. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Every object in he universe is unique, but no object can be more or less unique than any other (with the possible exception of some sub-atomic particles, which I understand can exist at the same time in two different places, but I don't understand that!)
In a sense, the word is self-defeating. If everything is unique, there's not a lot of point in saying so.
So either it is or it isn't. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Every object in he universe is unique, but no object can be more or less unique than any other (with the possible exception of some sub-atomic particles, which I understand can exist at the same time in two different places, but I don't understand that!)
In a sense, the word is self-defeating. If everything is unique, there's not a lot of point in saying so.
The world looks so different after learning science. For example, trees are made of air, primarily. When they are burned, they go back to air, and in their flaming heat is released the flaming heat of the Sun which was bound in to convert air into tree.
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^^^ Doh! It appears that I've broken the Audio-Talk forum
All I was trying to say is IMHO Steve Swallow sounds like Steve Swallow and no-one else.
@ our-Chrismangler, whats with all the boo-ing at Stu's solo's? They no like the C+W?
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All I was trying to say is IMHO Steve Swallow sounds like Steve Swallow and no-one else.
@ our-Chrismangler, whats with all the boo-ing at Stu's solo's? They no like the C+W?
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That would make him unique.Dave the bass wrote:
All I was trying to say is IMHO Steve Swallow sounds like Steve Swallow and no-one else.
The world looks so different after learning science. For example, trees are made of air, primarily. When they are burned, they go back to air, and in their flaming heat is released the flaming heat of the Sun which was bound in to convert air into tree.
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Very much so.shane wrote:That would make him unique.Dave the bass wrote:
All I was trying to say is IMHO Steve Swallow sounds like Steve Swallow and no-one else.
Very unique in fact.
Oh, Hang on....
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Dave the bass wrote:Very much so.shane wrote:That would make him unique.Dave the bass wrote:
All I was trying to say is IMHO Steve Swallow sounds like Steve Swallow and no-one else.
Very unique in fact.
Oh, Hang on....
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