Zero emission road vehicles.

[Nick]

We could have a "hard to get into the seat" competition .

Are you a "snug" fit in the Porsche ?

No, its nice in there. The 987 is a bit wider than the original 986. The seat hold you in place but that is its job. The running gear is the same as the 997 911 without the rear "seats", so all good.

Once in is great, its the getting in (with the roof up) that requires a bit of timing.

[pre65]

I usually find getting out is more difficult than falling in.

In my youth I once sat in a Lotus Europa, probably the hardest car to enter / exit that I've experienced.

[andrew Ivimey]

Cor, I've driven one. Basically you are almost lying down - silly really. Huge acceleration of maybe it was just because I was so close to the road.

[IslandPink]

I think all the blood went to your head, Andrew !

[pre65]

Cor, I've driven one. Basically you are almost lying down - silly really. Huge acceleration of maybe it was just because I was so close to the road.

Reminds me of a story.

One very foggy day, a traffic policeman was horrified when he heard a sports car drive by at a speed (he thought) in excess of the prevailing conditions. He radioed control, and a short while later another officer managed to stop the car, and asked the driver why he was going fast when the visibility was so bad.

The driver asked the officer to get down level with the cars windscreen, and the officer was amazed to see that the fog did not go right down to the ground, and that the driver had actually got a clear view.

True ? The car was a Lotus Europa.

[Ali Tait]

Cor, I've driven one. Basically you are almost lying down - silly really. Huge acceleration of maybe it was just because I was so close to the road.

Isn’t that the whole point?

[Nick]

I have not driven one, but the overall shape and prortortion



Seem similar to the 987.



Though checking its 8" lower, so I can imagine its lots of fun getting in and out.

[andrew Ivimey]

Its a load of dingo's bollocks if you ask me. The car, I was told by the proud (!?) Owner, had to be srviced every month... and there was an oil leak.

What is point.

[pre65]

The photo Nick posted must be a later model to the one I sat in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Eur ... and%201975.

[Neal]

The point is to have fun once you’ve managed to get in

[Neal]

This presents a challenge

[Ray P]

Must be a Lotus thing; this (Lotus Elise) was really hard to get in and even harder to extricate myself!



Scary to ride as a passenger, very quick but no feeling of having control!

and this one (Noble M400) was even scarier!



Both were owned by IT contractors who worked for us back along!

I have no hankerings though, prefer my comforts nowadays.

[Dave the bass]

This presents a challenge

Agreed.

Brick wall or solid concrete to make the front end look better

[pre65]

My first sports car was a 1965 Sunbeam Tiger, 260 cu in (4261cc) Ford v8 and BW 4 speed manual.

Mine was white, had Minilite wheels (eventually) and had the optional detachable hardtop as well as the fold down hood.

Quite rare these days.

Like this but in white.

[andrew Ivimey]

It seems to me that if we limited personal motor vehicles to the power of a cinque cento the internal combustion engine would have many many millions of useful miles to go ( while we develop genuinely ecological (electrical) alternatives. Like the dinosaurs and probably homo sapiens at this rate the museum is the right place in the grand scheme of things for extinct reptiles, is and our glitzy toys.