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Black Gates

Post by andrew Ivimey » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:17 pm

Hello Boys! What does the Panel think ...?

I have quite a few gorgeous Black Gate capacitors which I intend to sell on eBay. At this moment what there is for sale seems to come from Russia or Romania though I have seen them in UK and USA.

But, and this is my question, are the rumours true that even Black Gates have been copied/pirated????!!!

My Black Gates are original, NOS and perfect, of course and I want to share in the ridiculously high prices such things seem to command but I realise that it is a wicked world in which we live and seek to avoid unnecessary hastle and tedium.

Your thoughts and facts are welcome!
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Re: Black Gates

Post by IslandPink » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:27 pm

I thought about selling a couple of unused 220+220/350 WKZ's , but decided I'd use them, one is going in the new tweeter amp. I think you could make a fair bit on anything like those - good luck. I wouldn't pay the going rate for the big power supply caps now.
You ought to let us know if you have any NH or NX ( red ones ) , I am very partial to them - maybe one or two others here.
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Re: Black Gates

Post by simon » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:10 pm

I have some 100+100 WKZs I'd quite happily convert in to the eye watering figures of cash I've seen people asking. That doesn't mean anyone's actually stumping up those sums.

But where there are things of value there are unscrupulous people.

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Re: Black Gates

Post by JohnG » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:45 am

Do your research into your selling methods on the items you wish to sell, check out through Google any Unscrupulous activities that can bite you through your lack of knowledge of these practices.
Don't let the smell of Big Bucks Cloud your Judgement !
You don't want to be Out of Blackgates, as well as Out of Pocket.
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Re: Black Gates

Post by andrew Ivimey » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:28 pm

Hi Mark, I'd forgotten about the red ones - I have a few somewhere, I think.

Hi Simon, it was the glorious wkzs I had in mind including a pair of 100 + 100 @ 600 volts - I have heard of fakes that look like Black Gates from the outside but inside are soldered lesser caps, a bit like Swiss watches bought from wily street vendors in the middle east after the 2ndWW war that ticked until the cockroach (inside) died! True? I wonder.

Hi John, you hint darkly at more than I might have had in mind and I'm afraid your hints remain only hints... I don't understand, apologies.

Has anyone heard of these fakes? It would be worthwhile faking such given the ridiculous prices ... I suppose I just have to assume this to be the case.
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Re: Black Gates

Post by Ali Tait » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:56 pm

Search completed sales on eBay for an idea. NOS pair of 100 +100uf 500v sold for just short of 1200 quid, so people are paying a lot of money..
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Re: Black Gates

Post by andrew Ivimey » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:21 pm

Yikes, Hi Ali, I had little more than a tenth of that price in mind... ponders....
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Re: Black Gates

Post by IslandPink » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:02 pm

Hmm, wonder if I could make some changes to the new tweeter amp ....
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Re: Black Gates

Post by Mike H » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:12 pm

andrew Ivimey wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:17 pm
Hello Boys! What does the Panel think ...?

But, and this is my question, are the rumours true that even Black Gates have been copied/pirated????!!!
Oh yes. Think how many appear to be for sale (I've seen photos where there seem to be dozens stacked high, and then there are dozensof photos like that), then how many were probably actually made? And, that people want to part with? Some years ago I saw a photo of one with the can cut open, revealing a lickle 20p consumer electrolytic inside. Total fake. I think the reason he did it was cos ii didn't seem right when in use. Was on Internet, can't remember where and don't think I have the photo. :shock:
 
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Re: Black Gates

Post by andrew Ivimey » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:38 pm

Oh my! Hi Mike.
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Re: Black Gates

Post by Ali Tait » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:43 pm

andrew Ivimey wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:21 pm
Yikes, Hi Ali, I had little more than a tenth of that price in mind... ponders....
Even used single caps are selling for around 300 quid.
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Re: Black Gates

Post by IslandPink » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:33 pm

Cripes. I think my other unused 220+220/350v upstairs might make its way onto EBay once I get a seller profile.
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Re: Black Gates

Post by IslandPink » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:21 pm

£1700 ?
Just call me the Capacitor King ( I will wait my chance ...)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-End-Bla ... :rk:1:pf:0
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Re: Black Gates

Post by izzy wizzy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:45 pm

Reckon I might do some auditioning of other caps and sell mine on if even used ones get good money. They're good but not that good ... well from memory anyway.

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